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The Antebellum Reform Movements responded to the large-scale changes and consequences of the Market Revolution in America. Where these reform movements successful in accomplishing their goals or not? where they motivated by humanitarian goals or not? explain (Write a minimum 100 words for you answer and respond to two of your classmates - minimum 75 words for each) Due 11/28/2011 at 2:20pm
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  • Emily Herzog

    These reform movements were successful in reaching their goals. For example those who fought for woman's right achieved so much that has changed the world around us. The fight for woman's rights led to women being able to do so much more in a community rather than just staying at home taking care of the children and maintaining a suitable home without the privilege to have their opinions heard and considered. Another example is the fight for rights among slaves. Those free slaves had gained some rights that they normally would not have but they still did not have respect among most whites to be considered free. People who fought for these cause were inspired by humanitarians and the way they believed things should be no matter the consequence.

    11/22/2011 11:03:26 PM
  • Omar U. Brito

    Some reform movements were successful, but they were mostly stepping stones that were later improved on. Call them social experiments if you will. Reforms on public education and the lyceum movement, built lasting foundations. These were important stepping stones for the American way of life. Some reform movements, mostly the ones mostly based on religious assumptions were unsuccessful. A good example would be the temperance movement which was mostly led by Protestants. Reform movements in the 20th century were influenced by the Second Great Awakening. This meant that plenty of reforms initially had religious goals and aspirations. In the end ,however, many humanitarian goals were later met in regards to suffrage and civil rights.

    11/23/2011 4:56:32 AM
  • Natalia Altamirano

    The reform movements weren't all successful at once. Most were succesful after going through many hard falls to get there. These Reforms movements were mostly influenced by the Second Great Awakening. One of the most important movements that was accomplished with time was abolishment. Abolishment was a great accomlishment that with time paid off greatly. Slavery was widely used and to an obvious dislike of many slaves, they soon rebelled. Some salves and whites against salvery became abolitionists and fought for the end of slavery completely. This may not seem like it was successful, but even if it took time they accomplished it. Now we don't have slavery and it is all due to the abolitionists and insisting in accomplishsing theie goal.

    11/23/2011 11:43:27 PM
  • Jorge Lopez

    By themselves these reform movements cannot be considered completely successful in accomplishing their goals. However, these movements were the first steps in achieving their goals. Take for example the women’s rights movement. In 1848, the first women’s right convention was held in Seneca Falls. In 1869, Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth Stanton formed the National Woman Suffrage Association, an organization whose goal was to gain voting rights for women. That same year Lucy Stone and Henry Blackwell formed the American Woman Suffrage Association, another organization with the goal of gaining voting rights for women. While these efforts might not have been immediately effective, they did create a foundation for future civil rights movements. These movements were fueled by humanitarian goals such as giving women the same rights men have.

    11/24/2011 1:40:54 AM
  • Omar U. Brito

    To Emily Herzog:
    I agree with you in that Antebellum reform movements were successful. Especially on women suffrage and civil rights for blacks. I also agree with you in that humanitarian beliefs influenced these movements in the search for equality for all of the people. However, I do not agree that humanitarian goals were the primary aspirations for these movements. I think the event that had the most impact on these reforms was the second great awakening which brought upon a new found love for God and all things holy.

    11/24/2011 4:47:03 AM
  • Priscilla Galvan

    As the question clearly asks "were these reform movements successful in accomplishing their goals or not? the answer is yes they were successful. The question does not specify if the movements were accomplished at a certain time it merely asks if they were thriving. Take for example the women's rights movements that occurred during this time. It did not accomplished itself altogether but it did take on an initiative step towards triumph. The Senneca Falls conevention took place and many women reformers such as Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Susan B. Anthony and Lucy Stone were among the women who left their ideas in the minds of many and with time would eventually take place. Their is also the slavery abolishment movement that did not take place immediately but did imprint itself in the minds of many Americans. It was the one movement that struck the most bringing even the whole country into a dispute. This reforms were based on the principles of humanity from the abolishment of slavery which was undoublty considered inhumane by the North to the fight for women's rights which called for the rights women deserve as part of the country. Both movements came from humanitarian based ideals and people.

    11/24/2011 4:39:11 PM
  • APUSH

    To Emili Herzog:
    The women's right movement started with the Seneca Falls Convention in 1848. This event led to the movement to win the right to vote for women which was finally achieved in 1919 with the 19th amendment to the US Constitution.

    11/24/2011 7:28:09 PM
  • APUSH

    To Priscilla Galvan
    You make a really good point when you mention that that the reform movements were successful in the short or long term. Something important to keep in mind is that the second great awakening was the stepping stone that will eventually led to the fight for social justice in America.

    11/25/2011 1:05:48 AM
  • Jorge Lopez

    To Priscilla Galvan:
    I agree with you when you say that the reform movements were stepping stones to achieving the amount of equality we today, but only partially agree with what you say about the goals being completely humanitarian. We must not forget that even though some of the people who took part of the abolitionist movement thought slavery was morally wrong, this only accounts for part of the people. There were others who supported the abolitionist movement not because they believed slavery was morally wrong, but because they were racist and believed that slaves were taking jobs from whites in the South.

    11/25/2011 1:46:03 AM
  • Jorge Lopez

    To Emily Herzog:
    I partially agree with what you say about you say the reform movements for women's rights being successful in reaching their goals. The reforms by themselves didn't really change a lot. What they did do is establish a foundation that would be built upon in the future. As APUSH mentioned, women didn’t really gain the right to vote until 1919 when the 19th amendment of the U.S Constitution was passed. This was due to years of lectures and civil disobedience which were started by the women’s rights reform.

    11/25/2011 3:29:26 AM
  • Marcos Barrera

    Many movements were successful, while others were not. Take for instance, the temperance movement, which called for the prohibition of alcohol in the states. This movement failed because it was mostly supported by one group of people, and created more problems like smuggling of alchohol. Some movements had immediate response, like the reforms of prisons and mental asylums started by Dorothea Dix. Other movements, although successful, took a long time to achieve the liberties that we enjoy today. The abolitionist and women's rights movements had their beginnings in the Antebellum period,and would later be accomplished. These movements appeared to, and did have humanitarian goals, but they were exploited by others to have economical and political goals, such as the banning of slavery from certain states.

    11/25/2011 2:13:10 PM
  • Kimberly Noriega

    The Antebellum Reform Movements in response to the changes and consequences of the Market Revolution were successful in accomplishing their goals. The people behind the reform movements were also motivated by the humanitarian goals in some aspects, whether in long term or short term goals, such as, the women’s rights movement was the fight for equality among both men and women, but humanitarian goals did not necessarily motivate the abolishment of slavery. Slavery was in fact a reform that caused equality but people did not choose to abolish it in order to be equal but rather to have the blacks moved out of the country because of the competitiveness it caused among the different races weather it was money wise or freedom wise. Yet the reforms were successful because they are the reason why now today we have equality among the people of our nation, they were not necessarily perfect but they were the beginning of something bigger that gave the voice to the voiceless.

    11/25/2011 3:08:35 PM
  • Kimberly Noriega

    To:Omar Brito
    I agree with you when you say "Some reform movements were successful, but they were mostly stepping stones that were later improved on" because reforms were not perfect when they were finally established but rather the beginning of what our nation was to become.

    11/25/2011 3:11:28 PM
  • Kimberly Noriega

    To: Natalia Altamirano
    I agree with you when you say that most reform movements were not successful at once but after hard falls that they had to face, yet the struggles they faced were the resaon why the reforms were successful, for example when women were not really considered in poltics, work, education, and etc. they faced the many people that thought they were out of place but that did not stop them they persisted until they achieved thier goal of equality among men and women in the long run.

    11/25/2011 3:17:58 PM
  • jorge

    The antebellum period is one of the most dynamic and vivid in all of American history. The
    industrial, transportation, and market revolutions, unprecedented urban growth and its
    accompanying problems, religious revivals spawning such diverse figures as Charles Finney
    and Joseph Smith, and reform movements tackling social ills ranging from prostitution
    to slavery are just part of the story. At the same time territorial expansion and increasing
    sectional tensions undermine the two party system, lead to the rise of the Republican Party,
    and push the country toward the violent rupture of civil war.

    11/26/2011 2:11:03 PM
  • jorge

    The antebellum period is one of the most dynamic and vivid in all of American history. The
    industrial, transportation, and market revolutions, unprecedented urban growth and its
    accompanying problems, religious revivals spawning such diverse figures as Charles Finney
    and Joseph Smith, and reform movements tackling social ills ranging from prostitution
    to slavery are just part of the story. At the same time territorial expansion and increasing
    sectional tensions undermine the two party system, lead to the rise of the Republican Party,
    and push the country toward the violent rupture of civil war.

    11/26/2011 2:12:53 PM
  • jorge

    The antebellum period is one of the most dynamic and vivid in all of American history. The
    industrial, transportation, and market revolutions, unprecedented urban growth and its
    accompanying problems, religious revivals spawning such diverse figures as Charles Finney
    and Joseph Smith, and reform movements tackling social ills ranging from prostitution
    to slavery are just part of the story. At the same time territorial expansion and increasing
    sectional tensions undermine the two party system, lead to the rise of the Republican Party,
    and push the country toward the violent rupture of civil war.

    11/26/2011 2:13:38 PM
  • jorge

    TO:Marcos Barrera
    I agrre when you say that many movements were successful and others in struggle because of the womens right's antebellum period.

    11/26/2011 2:17:40 PM
  • Michelle Placeres

    Most of the Antebellum Reform Movements were succcesful in accomploshing their goals but it took a long time. One movement I can say was not succesful was the temperance movement. This movement was supposseed to prohibit alcohol and even though alcohol was prohibited for some time, alcohol returned to being ¨legal¨. The women's suffrage movement was one movement that was successful after many years of fighting. At the beginning it was obscured by the abolitionist movement, it was not until 1920 when the Nineteenth Amendment was passed that women's suffrage achieved its goal. Both the women´s suffrage and the abolitionist movement were successful in accomplishing their goals and yes, in my opinion, they were motivated by humanitarian goals. The women's suffrage was made so that women could vote and this not only gave them a voice in political affairs but also at their homes, it was a step to equality. The abolitionist movement was humanitarian because slavery was an instutition that treated blacks like animals and slavery no matter how you see ut is morally incorrect.

    11/26/2011 5:41:42 PM
  • alexander martinez

    Many movements came out of antebellum america. The push for all these reforms came from the second great awakening. Each reform movements had their successes. Some reforms however had long terms success, and short term success. Issues like slavery, a highly debated subject, had plenty of support from both pro- and anti- slavery. This issue would eventually start a whole war. Abolotionism was a reform with lots of support, and gained some traction, but fell flat because of other key issues. Even those some reforms weren't an immediate success, they were able to provide some start for the years to come.

    11/26/2011 6:16:14 PM
  • Gina Espinoza

    These reform movements were succesful in mostly all cases. Reform movements such as Womens rights, education reforms, temperance, and most importantly abolition of slavery is what shaped our world. Womens rights helped women have a voice not just in the house hold but in politics and in the community. Female reformers advocated womens sufferage and other rights for women. Education reforms is most important because it is what provides us a better future. with this reform not only to rich and wealthy could send their kids to school but also the average american family was provided with public schools. Many people, such as Horace Mann, argued that the key to reform in U.S society was better education which meant establishing state normal schools to better trained teachers. These and other reformers were a huge step to what formed the country we have today.

    11/26/2011 10:09:55 PM
  • APUSH

    TO ALL
    I LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT YOUR ORIGINAL RESPONSE MUST HAVE A MINIMUM OF 100 WORDS AND YOUR RESPONSE TO YOUR CLASSMATES MUST BE 75 WORDS EACH (YOU MUST ANSWER TO TWO OF YOUR CLASSMATES)

    11/26/2011 10:18:14 PM
  • Gina Espinoza

    To Marcos Barrera:



    I never saw the temperance movement as a fail but you are right it was. Alcohol did cause more problems when it was prohibited then it had before. They all found a way to somehow have alcohol. Also many of the movements that had a great impact over time were mostly humanitarian goals.

    11/26/2011 10:20:07 PM
  • Gina Espinoza

    To Jorge Lopez:


    Just like Priscilla Galvan said, the question just ask if they were successful yes or no not if with help, when or how long it took. But i do agree with you the these reforms couldnt have been able to work without the help of others. Humanitarian goals were one of the most important things that fueled the movements.

    11/26/2011 10:31:03 PM
  • Omar U. Brito

    To Marcos Barrera:
    I agree with you in that not all reform movements were successful, and that the temperance movement was one of the least successful ones. I also agree that different reform movements had different responses. Dorothy Dix's mental institutions had more immediate responses while the more complicated civil rights movements had goals that had taken longer to achieve. I also agree that these reforms were not directly influenced by humanitarians, but rather sometimes for economical and political gain.

    11/26/2011 11:11:44 PM
  • Gina Espinoza

    to Jorge:

    You dont seem to answer the question at all. Its asking if they were succesfull in accomplishing their goals and if they were motivated by humanitarian goals. You dont do either. Yes they tackled social ills but how? Did it work? I dont see you mention any of the major issues that caused reforms such as: abolition of slavery, temperance, womens right or education. In my opinion you should revise your post

    11/26/2011 11:56:17 PM
  • Gina Espinoza

    To Natalia Altamirano:


    I agree with you that not all movements were succesfull.
    Many went through hard times but in the end they made a big impact towards the way we live today. Also, the most important movements to me were abolishment, womens rights and education since those were the most succesful over time though they did not succeed at once. On the other hand, rebellions that slaves conducted did not succeed in most of the cases. Those who helped them run away or make rebellions usually punished with cruel death. As you mention, the hardwork of the slaves and abolitionist slavery is not something we see now adays making the goal accomplished.

    11/27/2011 12:02:47 AM
  • Fernando Carrera

    Some antebellum movements were successful while others were not. For example Dorothea Dix's movement to support mental deficient citizen and the creation of mental asylums, gained popularity and fulfilled its cause. Other movements lets say, the temperance movements or Utopian movements, did not gain as much support as Dorothea's movement and eventually collapsed. Movements that had humanitarian beliefs behind their cause, usually gained more support, because they had something to stand for, usually other people, and these are the movements that usually fulfilled their causes. For example, Dorothea Dix focused on mentally disabled people, and the motivation that drove Dix, eventually drove her supporters.

    11/27/2011 1:45:08 PM
  • Fernando Carrera

    To Alexander Martinez:

    I completely agree with you in your idea that, even if some antebellum movements did not gain immediate support or immediate fulfillment, it did not mean that they were failed attempts, just that they were either overshadowed by other key issues. as an example,slavery issues; whether slavery was going to become abolished or not was thoroughly fought and argued but its immediate effect was not its movements, but the war to come in a few years.

    11/27/2011 1:52:05 PM
  • Fernando Carrera

    To Emily Herzog:

    I agree with you with your ideas on the female reform movements, but i have to point out that women did not acquire the freedoms all women posses today during feminist movements. women were still tied to " the cult of domesticity" and were afraid to leave their family fend off for themselves, and many women would rather sow and cook for their family than going to some strangers house to perform these tasks, and receive a meager wage.

    11/27/2011 1:57:23 PM
  • Jabin Sanchez

    These reforms were sucessful because it changed how people thought. For example the womens reform changed how men thought about women. Even though these reforms improved it also encouraged slavery and brought out differences between the North and the South. Many reforms were sucessful but did not help everyone for example slavery was a major issue many were pro slavery but others were against it because its not humanitarian. Other reforms that were kind of sucessful was the womens reform movements. These ideas helped others to realize their needs to be a change. these differences later would create controvercies. The Antebellum reform movements were sucessful to help people realize they needed a change.

    11/27/2011 3:40:01 PM
  • Jabin Sanchez

    to Alexander Martinez
    I agree in what you said that slavery was a cause of war because their were disagreements between the North and the South. I also agree that abolition had a lot of support in the beggining but later on it lost support. I think this happened because the Americans got an idea of superiority and did not want to help those that were in the bottom which in this case were the slaves.

    11/27/2011 3:47:59 PM
  • Jabin Sanchez

    to Jorge Lopez
    I agree with you about the reforms the women did. These reforms did not change how others thought about women. Eventually these ideas about women would change just like you stated thats why i agree with what you said about the womens reforms. I also agree that humanitarians supported the womens causes even though many did not think the same these support helped women succeed in searching for equality just like men and fair treatment to.

    11/27/2011 3:58:56 PM
  • alexander martinez

    to marcos barrera:


    I agree with you that some reforms in Antebellum America were only the failures, if they were to only be seen in the antebellum american time frame. Prohibition reforms during antebellum American can certainly be seen as a failure in historical sense. But the prohibition did not stop there because later the 18th amendment prohibited alcohol consumption up until the 21st amendment was ratified. Even if the temperance movement was a failure during its start, it certainly provided the stepping stone of a fight that they would continue fighting.

    11/27/2011 4:22:11 PM
  • Rebecca Chavez

    Many reform movements were successful in Antebellum America, however, others were not so successful. Consider the education reform, for example: Tax-supported public education proved to be victorious in the east and west, with laborers demanding free education for their children. Prison reforms and mental institutions also saw a successful change with the improvement of treatment toward the mentally ill and changed conditions in prisons. On the other hand, the temperance movement, which urged the reduction of the consumption of alcohol, was unsuccessful. It ultimately resulted in the prohibition of alcohol, which caused more problems than it solved, pushing Americans toward illegal criminal activity. Other movements such as women's rights and the abolition of slavery did not immediately see a direct result, but eventually gained popularity and were successful. Antebellum reform was motivated primarily by humanitarian goals due to the influences of human morale, democratic ideas, and different religions.

    11/27/2011 6:29:45 PM
  • Rebecca Chavez

    To Gina Espinoza:

    I agree with your thoughts on women's rights. To add to your thoughts: Men and women were separated into distinct economic roles as a result of the Market Revolution. Some women wanted to break away from the traditional role as a homemaker and participate in men's roles as well. I also agree with your comment that "Reform movements such as Womens rights, education reforms, temperance, and most importantly abolition of slavery is what shaped our world."

    11/27/2011 6:44:18 PM
  • Aaron Lopez

    I completely agree with you in that these reform movements were greatly influenced by the Second Great Awakening. The Second Great Awakening’s optimistic promises were very inspirational. These reformers were brilliant, intelligent, and inspirational. All of these reforms were very much influenced by religion indeed, especially by evangelical religion and the dream of the perfect Puritan society. I also agree with you that most of these movements were successful and I am also very fond of how you described some as “social experiments”.

    11/27/2011 6:46:47 PM
  • Rebecca Chavez

    To Emily Herzog:

    I agree with your comments about women's rights, and how women are able to do much more now than before. However, like many have said, the attempts at women's rights did not gain an immediate reaction until the Seneca Falls Convention and did not have the right to vote until 1919. I also agree with your comment about how some slaves gained freedom and some rights that they wouldn't normally have, but were still treated with contempt.

    11/27/2011 7:02:44 PM
  • Laura Vidrio

    The Antebellum Reform Movements were successful while others weren't. For example, when Dorethea Dix fought for the rights of patients in mental institutes it proved to be successful. Another example is the temperance movement, it was successful because the American Temperance Society was formed and numerous citizens joined and ended their excessive drinking. On the other hand, when women were pushing for their rights during this time, they achieved very little. However, it did in fact pave the way for future equality in the 1920s. In order to determine the success of the movements, one must factor in each of the movements in this time period to truly get an answer.

    11/27/2011 7:59:43 PM
  • Roxanna Ramos

    Many of the Antebellum Reform movements were successful. For example the beginning of the contradiction between slavery, women’s suffrage, the market revolution and also the changes in public education were products of the reform movements. Although I have to say they were not entirely changes that happened right away they were the beginning of the changes that created America. Not all was successful in the Antebellum period the temperance movement failed to ban alcohol production and assumption. I believe that these social changes were encouraged by humanitarian goals because in the women’s fight for change many women gathered together and joined forces to be heard. For example, Susan B. Anthony, and Elizabeth Stanton to name a few were important figures that shaped the fight on woman suffrage. If no one earned the courage to fight for humanitarian goals then none of these important movements would be possible.

    11/27/2011 8:06:31 PM
  • Roxanna Ramos

    To Omar Brito:
    I agree with your opinion on reform movements being successful but only stepping stones to the changes that created this country. Many of what happened in the antebellum period was the beginning of long term changes, they were the foundation to the many future contradictions and battles. The Antebellum reform changes are to be given credit to many of what is accomplished in the American history. I also agree that some reform movements were based on religious assumptions like the temperance movement.

    11/27/2011 8:18:10 PM
  • Laura Vidrio

    To Emily Herzog:
    I agree with you in that the Antebellum Reform Movements were successful and that women and african american slaves did gain a lot of rights. However I disagree with you because what they did establish however, were the foundations and the start of the big changes. The slaves did not gain some rights until after the Civil War. Women's rights were more difficult to obtain and because of that they did not gain rights until the 1920s.

    11/27/2011 8:18:22 PM
  • Laura Vidrio

    To Alex Martinez:
    I agree with you in that the Antebellum Reform Movements came from the Great Awakening because that is when a lot of thinkers thought of new ways to create a better America. I also agree with you that some had a long term success and some reforms had a short term success. I also agree with you that they did not have immediate success and they provided a start.

    11/27/2011 8:34:43 PM
  • Roxanna Ramos

    to Gina Espinoza;
    Gina, I agree with what you said about education reforms being very important for American future because education reforms is what shapes the lives of American children adding up to a greater country when these children are older. Like you said, I believe that these changes are one of the most important for American ways. With these changes both wealthy and poor could gain an education and create a prosperous future. Thanks to the the antebellum reform movements the change for education reform was extinguished.

    11/27/2011 8:42:03 PM
  • Vivian Garcia

    The Antebellum Reform Movements were very successful in accomplishing their goals. These reform movements were important because they were the first step in improving society in America for future generations. They were intelligent, inspired idealists, mostly influenced by the fire of evangelical religion. What mostly inspired these souls was The Second Great Awakening and they drew on the old Puritan vision of a perfect society. Women were especially dominant in their reform campaigns because of their own struggle for equality.
    Reformers were definately motivated by humanitarian goals. The drinking problem that arose in the 1800s, especially attracted them because of events like weddings and funerals that became disgraceful quarrels. More importantly, Drunkenness repelled the goodness of the family.

    11/27/2011 8:52:58 PM
  • alexander martinez

    to laura<3:

    I agree with you that the women's rights movement wasn't successful at the time it started. It was essentially thrown away to be forgotten when the issue of slavery became widespread. The issue of slavery was so huge that other reforms were thrown into the dark to be forgotten until the argument was over. Once the civil war and the aftermath of the civil war was over, is when women were gaining rights in a sufficient way.

    11/27/2011 10:14:02 PM
  • Aaron Lopez

    Some Antebellum Reform Movements were somewhat successful in creating a path for those goals to later be accomplished and others were successfully accomplished. All of which were inspired by the Second Great Awakening, evangelical religious idealists and even the “perfect” Puritan dream (free from cruelty, slavery, discrimination, etc.). Amongst these successful reforms was the Women’s Suffrage movement. The Women’s suffrage movement was full of outstanding leadership of many reformer women such as Catherine Breecher, Lucretia Mott, Susan B. Anthony, and Elizabeth Cady Stanton. Another successful reform was Dorothea Dix’s insanity and asylum reform. Education reforms are a great example of reforms that set paths for later successors. Some of the least successful were Temperance Movements. Some of these reforms were motivated my humanitarian goals like Women’s Rights Reform and Abolitionists Reforms. The reforms for women were meant to bring equality between men and women. The Abolitionist reforms were meant to end the disgraceful treatment of African Americans and even the absurd comparisons to animals.

    11/27/2011 10:25:48 PM
  • Aaron Lopez

    To Michelle Placeres:

    I agree with you that Temperance Movements were unsuccessful. These prohibition acts never really ended and were never resolved in the end. I also completely agree with you on the aspect of humanitarian motivation. The Women’s Rights movements and Abolition Movements were very much motivated by natural human rights. All women were striving for was equality between men and women. Abolition reforms were meant to end the morally wrong act of human slavery and disgraceful comparisons of blacks to animals.

    11/27/2011 10:34:51 PM
  • Adriana Beltran

    Although most of the Antebellum Reforms Movements were succesful not all were in accomplishing their goals. One movement that was not succesful was the temperance movement. This movement was against alcohol, at the end alcohol was not prohibit. The women's right was another movement, but this one was succesful and it took a long time to be. The firsr thing that happen was the Seneca Falls Convention in 1848. There was also the National Woman Suffrage Association that was also for fighting women's rights.Although it was accomplish until 1919 it was succesful at the end.Dorothea Dix movement is another example of a succeful movement.This movement was about reforms of prisons and mental institutions.This movements were motivated by humanitarian.

    11/27/2011 10:52:31 PM
  • Marco Pinuelas

    It took some time for these reform movements to become successful; one for example, was the women’s rights movement. It took many years after the Seneca Falls Convention for women to get the rights they claimed. Another movement that was successful was the abolitionist, after decades and decades of slavery it was finally abolished after several conflicts including the Civil War. However, some were not successful because it is difficult to implement a radical change upon a nation in such short period of time. One reform that failed was the temperance movement; it all started because some groups believed that the consumption of alcoholic beverages could lead to corruption, prostitution and other problems when it was just a people’s relief due to their monotonous and full of hard work lives. It failed because people believed they needed the alcohol and tried to do anything to acquire it which caused much more problems than just banning the use of alcohol. These movements were motivated by humanitarianism to some extent but they were mostly motivated by the renewed love of God and religion due to the second great awakening.

    11/27/2011 10:54:12 PM
  • Adriana Beltran

    To Gina Espinoza:
    I agree with you in that abolition of slavery is what shaped our world.Also that education reform is the most important because it is what provides us a better future.Another thing in which I agree with you is in that women's rights helped women have a voice in politics and community and not just in the house.I like what you said that reforms were a huge step to have the country we have today.

    11/27/2011 10:56:13 PM
  • Adriana Beltran

    To Emily Herzog:
    I agree with you in that those that fought for women's right achieved many things that changed the world around us.Also that women's right led women to do so much more in the community, like thier opinions being heard and considered and not just taking care of their children at home.Something that you said in which I agree with you is that free slaves gained some rights only, but the respect they did not gain from the whites.

    11/27/2011 11:00:17 PM
  • Marco Pinuelas

    To Kimberly Noriega

    I agree with your point that these reforms, in fact, took some time to take place and change everything. I also agree that some movements were motivated by humanitarianism like the women’s rights, but there were also movements like abolitionism that were fueled by the people’s belief in self gain. Many people just wanted to get rid of slavery because it was difficult to get a job while many other races were fighting for them.

    11/27/2011 11:05:15 PM
  • Marco Pinuelas

    To Jabin Sanchez
    I agree with your belief that these movements changed the way people thought. Also, that it created problems and controversy such as the abolitionist movement that eventually led to the Civil War. I disagree with you statement that slavery was humanitarian because slavery deprived African Americans from the rights they deserve. I would also like to add that all these reforms took quite some time to actually become successful and change the way we live.

    11/27/2011 11:16:25 PM
  • Francisco Moran

    I believe if the goals of the reformers in Antebellum America was mainly to just let people know then they did succeed. During this time only very few reformer movements actually succeed. One could be Dorothea Dix's prisoner and ill people reforms. Take for example the abolition of slavery, it was the biggest issue in Antebellum America. This issue was supported and disapproved by many. At the end of this era the only major thing that the reformers did was make people listen and think about the idea. Still, the only major change that was brought by all of these reforms was a civil war that split the U.S. in two but reformed it into a stronger country.

    11/27/2011 11:35:10 PM
  • Francisco Moran

    To Alexander Martinez

    11/27/2011 11:44:29 PM
  • Francisco Moran

    To: Alexander Martinez

    I agree with your comment especially " Even those some reforms weren't an immediate success, they were able to provide some start for the years to come." It shows how most reform movements in Antebellum America were just beliefs people wanted to share. This in my opinion could be a Third Great Awakening in the sense were people but more of their beliefs out there to the country and the overall goal was to change a law or create a law that supported that belief.

    11/27/2011 11:47:44 PM
  • Francisco Moran

    To Marco Pinuelas

    I agree with your comment because yes it did take a long time to make all of those reforms happen. It takes decades for people to be in a common side in which they can act upon together. Also, since the Second Great Awakening had just happened people took many of their religious beliefs of everyone being treated equally, love and peace, and all of those whatnots, into the social life and created all of these movements.

    11/28/2011 12:07:41 AM
  • Natalia Altamirano

    To Adriana Beltran:
    I completely agree that some reform movements weren’t successful and some were. For instance, your example about the temperance movement is very true. We still see it in the present. Alcohol is legal and is not going to abolished. And in regards to woman’s rights, that worked pretty well since now all woman have rights and a voice. We no longer have to depend on men and live by what they want for us.

    11/28/2011 12:25:54 AM
  • Natalia Altamirano

    To Adriana Beltran:
    I completely agree that some reform movements weren’t successful and some were. For instance, your example about the temperance movement is very true. We still see it in the present. Alcohol is legal and is not going to abolished. And in regards to woman’s rights, that worked pretty well since now all woman have rights and a voice. We no longer have to depend on men and live by what they want for us.

    11/28/2011 12:26:16 AM
  • Priscilla Galvan

    To Jorge
    Yes you are right when you say that Antebellum period was one of the most dynamic. I agree with you that the improvement in transportation, the market revolution and industrialization where a great part of it. Indeed the Second great awakening was in part an event that left its mark in the antebellum period along with as you mentioned its diverse figures Charles Finney and Joseph Smith. I also agree with your comment on the expansion that America undermined which did take part in causing the civil war. However i do not see much of the second part of the question where you express whether the principles and ideas that arouse from this period where humanitarian. I read your comment on mine and i agree that the reforms where not completely humanitarian it is true there where some abolotionists who where racists and whose motive to support anti slavery reforms where more of personal convinience than on the slave's.

    11/28/2011 12:35:09 AM
  • Natalia Altamirano

    To Laura Vidrio:

    I don't agree with your comment that says that the temperance movement worked because it really didn't work at all. People tried to stop alcohol use but it did not succed. It this had been a successful movement, then alcohol use would have been illegal and would probably still be illegal now. But I do agree with your comment about women’s rights because they did succed even though it took makny women a lot of effort and time to accomplish it.

    11/28/2011 12:35:58 AM
  • Priscilla Galvan

    To Vivian
    I agree with your comment on the accomplishments of the Antebellum period. They where successful in achieving there goals and of course they took a major part in the shaping of the future generations of America. Once again the Second Great Awakening takes a great part in the creation of some reform movements. The reform movements where in major part humanitarian yet i do seem to agree that not all the principles where based on humanitarian thoughts. There where some of who did not entirely support the same cause that most abolitionist.

    11/28/2011 12:42:48 AM
  • Gustavo Camacho

    Most Antebellum Reform movements were successful in achieving what they wanted but most of these took some time. One movement that is very important is the women suffrage movement. It started off in the Seneca Falls Convention and led the way to inspire women to fight for their rights to be treated equal to men. The civil rights movement was important to free blacks from being discriminated and thought of as less only because of the color of their skin. This started in the 1950s to create ethnicity equality. Both of these movements were in a way successful because now women are equal to men and blacks experience less racism. Lastly most of these reform movements had many leaders who strongly believed in what they fought for.

    11/28/2011 1:26:11 AM
  • Gustavo Camacho

    To: Emily Herzog
    I strongly agree with you on the fact that the women who fought for their rights did achieve what they wanted and they did come to change to world. Also I would have to agree with you on the example you gave about the slaves because civil rights for blacks did improve. Also I agree that it was inspired by humanitarians and the way they believed things should be no matter the consequences because this is what the people believed in.

    11/28/2011 1:43:38 AM
  • emmanuel montes

    The Antebellum Movements were humanitarian movements against a changing society with changing ideals. some of this movements were the temperance movement, which prohibited alcohol, the womens right movements, education for women and a reform for prisioners. most of them unsuccesful at their time but brought the bases for later succes, such an example would be the seneca falls movement and the declaration of sentiment that made a rough draft of what women's rights should be in america. the temperance movement wasn't succesful until late 1800's early 1900's.the most succesful during this time was the women education movement as well as the prison reforms. all this movements wre mostly supported by women how started to get involved in politics and social issues.

    11/28/2011 1:54:18 AM
  • emmanuel montes

    to Adriana Veltran:
    i agree with your comments on this movements especially in your opinion on the Seneca fall convention which started the sparks for the womens vote that came in the early 1900's but i would recomend the prison reforms that also were around during that period and the women education movement.

    11/28/2011 1:57:15 AM
  • emmanuel montes

    To Gina Espinoza:
    Gina i agree in your comments of slavery in that it was one of the most important movements that came from the Antebellum movements, for it shaped the world we live in. i support the comment you put on the education movements and their importance to the period. i liked your comments on wwomens rights and how they help the womens right today.

    11/28/2011 2:01:42 AM
  • Gustavo Camacho

    To: Michelle Placeres
    I also truly agree with you on the fact that the temperance movement was unsuccessful. I mean look at the amount of alcohol sold in the U.S. I truly believe that if these would have prevailed our world would be so much better. I agree with you on the women suffrage movement with it being successful to make women equal to men. Yes I would have to say that they were motivated by humanitarian goals.

    11/28/2011 2:01:59 AM
  • David Wong

    The reform movements were mostly successful though in that they were the beginning to larger changes which ended up meeting their goals. For example, the Women's movement, which originally was not as known, but was supported by many people and leaders like Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton that lead to the women gaining rights, like eventually voting. Other successful reforms may have been the changes in mental asylums and prisons by Dorothea Dix and reforms preformed for schools and education. Though there were some that failed, like the Temperance movement, that was supposed to prohibit alcohol, that eventually led to smuggling, then the removal of its own law. I believe that these movements were all motivated by humanitarianism, in that they believed everyone was equal just by being human.

    11/28/2011 2:26:53 AM
  • David Wong

    To Jabin Sanchez
    I agree that reforms were a form in changing the perspectives of people which lead to society needing a change. Though I disagree that all these reforms lead to the encouragement of slavery. I also disagree with you that people would be for slavery if it was humanitarian since slavery cannot be humanitarian since it places the Africans at the bottom of society even though they are humans as well.

    11/28/2011 2:40:14 AM
  • David Wong

    To Rebecca Chavez
    I agree that the reforms were successful some providing apparent results while others required time and support to grow, like the women's movement which was obscure by many of the other reform movements that were going on. I agree that the Temperance may have been one of the failures in changes that cause smugglings and eventually was later legalized. Also the reforms were not primarily influenced by humanitarian but by also the Second Great Awakening.

    11/28/2011 2:51:38 AM
  • Gabriela Perez

    I believe that although the Antebellum Reform movements were a start to many things other attempts at reform, they were not successful in accomplishing their goals. They just served as an example to be followed by the future reformers who in the end became successful in their goals. This question explicitly asks about reforms in Antebellum America and if they were able to reach their goals. Although they did take a big step towards a better social life for everyone they did not accomplish this by themselves it took years of reinforcement. Take for example the fight women had to be considered equal to men, it started in the Antebellum Era but it wasn't until 1919 they finally got what they desired. Proving my point that reformers in Antebellum America weren't successful but they were significant. Now if it was humanitarian i believe not because the people who followed the reforms did it for their self interest. Others that were not affected rarely joined the reforms.

    11/28/2011 4:00:16 AM
  • Gabriela Perez

    To Omar Brito
    I completely agree with you that the reform movements were stepping stones that were later improved, however I do not believe that this made them successful. I am also not clear what you meant by saying that these reform movements were social experiments. To add on, your examples on the reform movements only included those with religious involvement which in a way adds to my own point that people did joined reform movements for themselves and their religious interests other than humanitarian goals.

    11/28/2011 4:09:48 AM
  • Jonathan Hurtado

    The Antebellum reform movements in many ways were very successful. They also were all inspired by humanitarian goals. The Second Great Awakening reformed religion, and the reason it sprang up to life was because of people which were becoming more aware of the irreligious and inhumane way they acted. The Second Great Awakening was even more popular than the first one, meaning that the goals of this antebellum reform movement were of course accomplished. The education reforms were also very successful. Many poor Americans wanted to have their children freely educated, unlike them. Because the future of America would depend on the votes of every man, educated or not, the rich soon supported the public school system in order to educate the future voters of America. The prison reform brought on by Dorothea Dix was completely humanitarian. The prison reform successfully accomplished its goals of softening harsh criminal codes. The temperance movement was the most successful of all. It was brought on to help humanity as a whole, and also to keep the workplace in better control. It successfully decreased alcohol consumption. Finally, the women’s rights movements were successful in accomplishing their goals. Women started thinking independently about their own rights. Because of the women rights movements, some women were being accepted into college and gained the rights to own property afterwards.

    11/28/2011 4:15:39 AM
  • Gabriela Perez

    To Marco Pinuelas
    I agree with you that it took time for the reform movements to become successful, but wouldn’t that mean that at their time they were unsuccessful? Yes, the Seneca Falls Convention was just the beginning for woman to get what they wanted and it took many years for them to get the rights they desired. Your example of the abolitionist movements also prove the point that it takes time for these movements to become successful. In addition, your point on the temperance movement further proves that these reforms weren’t all there, or successful.

    11/28/2011 4:18:10 AM
  • Jonathan Hurtado

    To Omar U. Brito


    I totally agree with you that some reform movements were only stepping stones to something more. Women rights movements did not immediately gain suffrage and equal rights for women, but instead, this brought an initiative to arrive into that stage in life. Reform movements were in fact full of religious goals and aspirations. People began to look at slavery as a bad thing in the U.S. as they seemed to notice that this was against God. All the reform movements did not immediately change the nation, but instead gave an initiative of their goals for new generations to surpass.

    11/28/2011 4:21:13 AM
  • Cesar Serrano

    The Antebellum Movements were more like hits and misses than completely successful.These movements made Americans improve themselves and their communities. It led to many changes in the way society was. Some reform movements such as the abolition of slavery was not immediately successful, but it did play an important role later on during the Civil War. Others such as the education reform had an immediate effect and caused a lasting effect that has gone on for a long time. This was an example of a successful reform. Humanitarians goals did in fact influence these movements and were based upon these goals.

    11/28/2011 4:34:40 AM
  • Jonathan Hurtado

    To Marcos Barrera:
    I agree completely with you when you say that the temperance movement failed. Smuggling did occur because of this. Even though it decreased the drinking habits of people, this was short lived. If the temperance movement would have been utterly successful, then nowadays we would not have the constant problem of accidents caused by drunk drivers. There simply would not be so many car accidents. Also, the phrase “What happens in Vegas, Stays in Vegas” would not have the same truthfulness as it stands right now. I also agree that some reforms were not entirely humanitarian in their nature. The only reason the education reforms were successful was because wealthy people wanted to protect the future of America by educating the uneducated who would later become voters in society.

    11/28/2011 4:35:34 AM
  • Cesar Serrano

    To Omar Brito:

    I agree with you that the reform movements were indeed the "stepping stones" to the American society. They were great pathways that led to things that had a huge impact on America. I also agree with the fact that the most unsuccessful reform movements of the time were the religious movements. They had almost little to no impact, only serving as influences to the people who created or followed religions, which in turn led to an ineffective movement.

    11/28/2011 4:49:24 AM
  • Cesar Serrano

    To Roxanna Ramos:

    I agree with your comment in that the abolition of slavery, woman's suffrage, public education, etc., were all examples of successful movements in the time of the Antebellum Movements. I also agree that the movements were influenced by humanitarian goals, and i would like to add that abolitionists got together as well to decide on the issue of the abolition of slavery. Your example of the woman's suffrage is also a great example of the use of the goals.

    11/28/2011 5:00:13 AM
  • Michelle Placeres

    To Emily Herzog:
    I agree with you that women’s rights and the abolitionist movement were successful. If those women had not fought for almost two centuries we would not be able to enjoy of the privileges we have today, including our rights. It is true that women are not seen as mothers who have to stay home but also as free independent women who can excel in any occupation just like men. Also the abolitionist movement helped free the slaves and today any form of slavery is severely punished by the law. It is also true that these movements were humanitarians because they were made to help human beings who were being abused legally and physically.

    11/28/2011 8:19:45 AM
  • Michelle Placeres


    To Aaron Lopez:
    I agree with you that many reform movements were successful in achieving their goals but that many were a precedent for later movements. The Women’s suffrage movement and Dorothea Dix’s movement for the improvement of asylums have been of great impact and their achievements can still be seen in today’s society. The early education movement went through several phases it was not just to build tax-supported school but to increase the school’s conditions and to prepare the teachers better. And it is also true that these movements were motivated by humanitarian goals because they positively changed the lives of many human beings.

    11/28/2011 8:28:57 AM
  • Vivian Garcia

    To Michelle Plasceres:

    I completely agree with you on the fact that they took a long time to accomplish. Alcohol was one big issue for reformers and it was very important for them to change that among families and public events. Women always knew it was wrong for them to have not as many rights as men and thus they had to do something about it. Eventually they did, but not as soon as they would have wanted. The abolitionist movement was probably the most humanitarian you can get because it told everyone slavery was against everything from The Declaration of Independence to The Constitution of The United States of America.

    11/28/2011 3:06:22 PM
  • Vivian Garcia

    To Gina Espinoza:


    I believe the Reform Movements were successful in all cases as well. Without slavery, The United States wouldn't have been the same. Without the Women's rights movement and The Temperance Movement as well, so many events in our history wouldn't have happened if it weren't for reformers who fought for issues in America like these. Education is especially a huge factor in every country and without the early reforms of education what would be of our school systems today? It is something extremely important in what makes any country how it is today. What i believe these Reform Movements especially did was open the door for average Americans, as you mentioned, to have an opportunity to aquire a lifetime of education.

    11/28/2011 3:12:11 PM
  • Mariana Valdez

    While the Antebellum Reform Movements did gain an immediate growth. I believe it is much more important to to examine why some gained more fruitful results than others in the same extent of time. Take the "normal school" reformation by Horace Mann and his supporters. Providing the common folk with standard education to become more able voters had a practical purpose. Did giving women more liberties have a practical purpose? No, they would only intervene in decisions disrupting the very comfortable system already laid of men. Moreover, take slavery which was even more impractical to abolish. Imagine reconstructing the basis of your economy. That's why it was an issue passing to Postbellum America. You can continue going on about the Temperance Movement and even though the majority of the population which happened to find solace in the bottle after strenuous labor opposed the group did achieve some change for those in close proximity. The point is that even though the Second Great Awakening stimulated reform among the populace, more practical reasons provided the change that existed rather than the "human goodness".

    11/28/2011 3:56:45 PM
  • Mariana Valdez

    TO FRANCISCO MORAN

    I agree with your comment Moran about the Reformations being responsible not for tangible change but for setting everything ready for the Civil War. I opinionate that if that sectionalism ideologically speaking had not happened the country would have gotten to a less favorable state in which social reform would be a step too late. Although there is one thing in your response that bewilders me. With your first sentence do you mean that those entities formed to propagate these new ways of thinking were initially constructed not to do anything but gain supporters kind of like an offer of which car to buy?

    11/28/2011 4:05:37 PM
  • Mariana Valdez

    To Marco Piñuelas

    At these heights merely responding to your response would be overstating the same conclusion we have all come to (or at least the majority) in these fifty-something responses. What makes you think humanitarianism was involved in the wishes for reformation. Do not take me wrong for being an extremist but there is spare space here to discuss radical questions as long as they are within topic. Anyhow, the second great awakening rose up because people were loosening their grasp on religion. What if the churches afraid of losing their patronages instilled this need to reform and shake the people? It would qualify as selfish but indeed clever since everyone benefited from it? Just curious thought.

    11/28/2011 4:13:22 PM
 

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