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Please choose ONE question to answer. Remember that other students will read your responses so please do your best work. Completely explain your answer WITH evidence (describe a situation with page numbers) and  proofread.

1.Why does father quote "I Wandered Lonely as a Cloud"? What does the poem have to do with his feelings about life on the new planet?

2.How important is technology to the survival of the group on the new planet? What things can they fall back on if they cannot use the technology that they had on Earth?

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  • Isabella R.

    For your 1st question we talked about that we would rename it "Memories and Changes" It fits in with the story because father has old memories of Earth,and his life has changed and he has to start over. Not remembering this poem makes him miserable.On top of that Pattie asks about daffodils and clouds,which only adds to his misery.

    1/23/2012 4:09:29 PM
  • Braden A.

    I don't think that technology is really that important. Although the ship might be of use, because father says in the book:But when that
    space craft runs down,it's only metal junk,useful metal junk.

    1/23/2012 4:59:26 PM
  • Kaitlyn T

    Question No. 2 - The group did not think that technology was important on the new planet because their spaceship broke down and that was their only technology to use on the new planet Shine. The group had to find their own food in order to survive. They found candy trees (example page 47 - they had little crimson droplets oozing here and there from the bark. If you put out a finger to touch the droplet, your finger stuck, and when you pulled it off and licked it, it tasted sweet). The group also used the bark off the trees to build their houses. They planted seeds but that failed and then they finally grew wheat and that ended up being their main food supply.

    1/23/2012 5:19:07 PM
  • Gracie C.

    I think that technology is important to the survival of the group on the new planet or Shine because if they did not have the seed dropper it would take longer to plant the wheat and vegetables and they might not have grown.
    The things might that fallen back if they did not have the technology that they had on Earth would be planting the food.

    1/23/2012 6:46:50 PM
  • Julia M.

    1.I think Father was saying he was lonely because he misses his wife who died years ago. He was probably remembering the picture on the slide projector of his wife on the beach with a brown sky in the background.
    2.Technology is very important because if they had a computer they could find ways to make the wheat grow better. Since they don't have technology,except for the video games, it will be hard for surrvival because they will forget many things on earth. They can still eat a tiny bit of food every day and Sarah can still make the pancakes if they are safe to eat.

    1/23/2012 7:18:25 PM
  • Flere

    Great point Isabella! Why do you think forgetting the poem makes him so miserable?

    1/23/2012 8:47:39 PM
  • Flere

    Great passage to quote Braden! So if technology is not important what skills can they fall back on?!

    1/23/2012 8:50:16 PM
  • Flere

    Good point Kaitlyn! Do you think they will ever get to a point where technology is as it was on Earth-or is this not needed for survival on Shine?

    1/23/2012 8:54:07 PM
  • Flere

    Good idea Gracie! Technology isn't just computers. What definition of technology is being used ? Think of Father's book.

    1/23/2012 8:56:23 PM
  • Flere

    Julia- your point about remembering things from Earth is a good one! Why is it important to remember Earth? How do memories influence us?

    1/23/2012 8:58:50 PM
  • Kaitlyn T.

    Technology is not needed for survival on Shine because the group has found other ways to survive without technology by using their own resources.

    1/24/2012 3:48:54 PM
  • Adrian

    Question 2-I think that the technology in father's technology book was very useful because without the seed drill planting the wheat would have taken a lot longer.

    1/24/2012 4:05:42 PM
  • Nikhil V.

    To let you know, I am answering question #2. I think they needed Father's technology book because if Father didn't bring the technology book they could not invent new stuff on the planet Shine.

    1/24/2012 5:21:50 PM
  • Abigail D.

    I think technology is important is important on Shine becuase without technology the people on Shine would have to do every thing themself instead of machines doing the work.

    1/24/2012 5:33:51 PM
  • Kaitlyn T

    Braden A. - I agree with your answer to question no. 2 because the people on planet Shine can't use the technology from Earth and their spaceship as it is broke down. Therefore, they need to use find ways to survive (example -planting wheat & using the trees for food).

    1/24/2012 7:15:35 PM
  • Ava G.

    Questin #1. Father quoted "I Wandered Lonely as a Cloud" because it reminded him of Earth and what he left there.He misses the life he had on Earth and some of his friends and family.On page 32,Pattie did not remember what clouds or daffodils where and this made father have sorrow in his heart.

    1/24/2012 8:26:47 PM
  • Flere

    Ava-What parts of "I Wandered Lonely as a Cloud" have to do with memories?
    Abby & Nikhil-Can you give an example of how this book has already helped them and a prediction about how it could help them?
    Good point Adrian! Can you predict other ways father can use the book to help them with survival?

    1/25/2012 7:29:41 AM
  • Daniel F

    Qustin 2 I think technology is very inportent on planet shine becaues people will get bored and they will need it to learn more about the planet.
    Katilyn T: I dont realy agree with Katilyn becaues with out tecnolgy they wouldnt realy be able to learn more about the plant and after the car runs out of gas they will have to have other tecnolgy to learn more about the planet

    1/25/2012 7:10:15 PM
  • Isabel D.

    Father quoted I wandered lonely as a cloud because the poem reminded him of Earth and how he missed it. On page four he looked wistfully at the Oxford Complete Shakespeare and had to leave it behind. Father is sad without it because it reminded him of Earth and they don't have clouds on Shine.

    1/25/2012 8:19:23 PM
  • Isabel D.

    Julia-I agree with your comment. I also think father misses his wife, but I think he was saying it because he misses all the joyful things on Earth.

    1/25/2012 8:32:00 PM
  • Flere

    Isabel- What parts of the poem, besides the clouds, remind Father of Earth?

    Daniel-What do you mean by technology?

    1/26/2012 8:16:55 AM
  • William D.

    I think technology is important to their lives because on page 16 Malcolm needed to test the water before drinking it. They could have become dehydrated or poisoned without the chemistry kit. Also, on page 36, Father made a seed drill to help plant the wheat. If Father didn't make it they would starve. He used his book of technology for the idea.

    1/26/2012 5:58:12 PM
  • William D.

    Braden- I don't exactly agree with your idea of technology not being important. If technology wasn't important then why did Father bring the technology book. Although, I definitely agree with your idea of the spaceship being useful for parts.

    1/26/2012 6:15:16 PM
  • adam

    In question number 1, Father says "I wondered lonely as a cloud" because he thinks the new planet is bare, lonely and friendless. Because there is little life on the new planet and he remembers more than Pattie about life on Earth. Like what a cloud is and what a daffodil is. Because Pattie asked on page 32 what they both were.

    1/26/2012 6:26:09 PM
  • Sophie E.

    Papa quoted i wondered lonly as a cloud because he misses the things in that poem like clouds and daffodils. He wanted his kids to remember too.It makes him sad to remember he will never see those things again.There will be flowers ,but there will never be daffodils there will be trees ,but there will never be oaks.

    1/26/2012 6:43:39 PM
  • adam

    Braden, I think the metal technolgy is pretty important because there isn't any metal on the planet just wood and the tents from Earth. They could use the metal junk to make templates for wooden things in the same shape if they needed it.

    1/26/2012 6:55:18 PM
  • Sophie E.

    Kaitlyn T. i disagree because i think technology can be used on planet Shine like earth like using the oil in the jelly fish to make lamps,and building the huts like they would on earth. There technology is differend ,but just as important.

    1/26/2012 6:57:15 PM
  • Colin V.

    By the way, I am answering question 2. I would say that technology is not very important for them when they get to Shine. I think this because once they were there, the technology stopped working so they used things that were handmade. For example of things that they handmade on page 36 where Father made his seed drill. He made it with imagination and so they could plant the seeds more quickly. He used his book to make it. So, they can create new ways to do things by using Father's book.

    1/26/2012 7:19:07 PM
  • Colin V.

    Ava G. I agree that Father is sorrowful about leaving Earth. I think he also misses other things like Shakespeare a lot.

    1/26/2012 7:27:24 PM
  • Ava G

    Isabella R-I agree with you! I agree with you because at the end of your response you said that Father was miserable because Pattie asked about daffodils and clouds. I think it reminded him of Earth because daffodils and clouds are on Earth.I also think that he went beyond thinking about daffodils and clouds and thought about his wife that died a few years ago. Father also thought of other things on Earth but Earth is long gone now.

    1/26/2012 8:17:34 PM
  • Flere

    Great examples William and Adam! Many people have differing opinions about technology. Let's look up the meaning of this word in the dictionary. You might be surprised by the meaning. Sophie has pointed out that using resources and inventing new, easier ways to do things is technology too, but it seems that Colin feels technology is computers and such. It was mentioned that "I Wandered Lonely as a Cloud" could be renamed change and memories. Besides daffodils and clouds, what parts of the poem support this idea?

    1/27/2012 8:25:50 AM
  • Isabella r

    I disagree with Braden.Father states that they NEED gadgets on pg.37,not that you answered wrong.He said"We need not machines exactly,but gadgets,things you can make out of wood and string,things you can mend yourself,like the seed drill."In that sentence, he tells us that gadgets are useful, not junk. He even says it's USEFUL junk.

    1/29/2012 5:13:24 PM
  • Isabella r

    To answer your question,Mrs.Flere,(the second one)It made him miserable only to forget more of it , like if it a thought of "Oh well,just another thing I'll never remember,and there is no hope of history of it written down." I don't really have evidence this is true from the book,but if I was there,that would be my thought. Oh, by the way,this is a great way(fun , but still thinking) of assigning homework!

    1/29/2012 5:22:25 PM
  • Trinity R

    I think it is very important that Shine has technology because people may not know many things about Shine.They would not be able to use computers and some tools without technology.

    1/29/2012 7:34:13 PM
  • Trinity R

    Colin v. I disagree because it is still important that they have technology from Earth just to make sure that they will not get into trouble. They may need technology from Earth instead of handmade tools.

    1/30/2012 6:46:53 AM
  • Flere

    I am glad you are liking the assignment Isabella! Trinity, what exactly do you think is meant by the term technology?

    1/30/2012 9:19:49 AM
  • Dylan A.

    Father thinks Shine is lonely and quite. He also misses all the joyful things on earth like clouds.

    2/2/2012 4:32:39 PM
  • Dylan A.

    I agree Adam that father was lonely because Shine was friendless.

    2/2/2012 4:39:21 PM
  • Ayden

    I think for the poem i wondered as lonely as a cloud is describing his feelings because he is going to leave earth friends and family

    2/2/2012 6:50:51 PM
  • Adrian

    Kaitlyn T. I don't agree with you because they will need technology if they fail to plant the wheat to store the candy tree sap.

    2/2/2012 7:22:28 PM
  • Luke D.

    2. Mrs. Flere, you should give us computer assignments every two weeks that we are off,this is fun. Technology is very important. Even though the wheat turned to glass, the seed drill was important because Sarah figured out how to make pancakes out of the glass wheat(pg.64&65), and they were a big part in their diet. Father and his family were a great choice to bring to Shine because he made alot of useful things like the clothes loom(pg.68&69) and I think he will make more in the future. I think most of the other kids have good thoughts too. The Green Book is one of my favorite books.

    2/5/2012 7:30:17 PM
  • Ian w.

    What will they do to the rover they have now that its out of fuel?

    2/6/2012 7:06:50 AM
  • Tyler.N

    This is for question 1.Father quotes I Wandered lonely as a Cloud because it reminds him of clouds and Earth.The poem has to do with Fathers feelings because Father doesn't understand what clouds mean untilhe gets to Shine,where there are no clouds and just like in the poem the poet doesn't relize the beaty of the daffidils until he is laying on the couch thinking about it.

    2/6/2012 4:34:42 PM
  • Campbell L-M.

    I think that technology is important to their survival. If they did not have technology they would run into problems including not being able to do new things. Example father's seed planter was important in order to plant seeds. They could use hand crafted tools they invented from wood and rocks if they did not have Earth's technology.

    2/6/2012 6:26:43 PM
  • William P

    The technology is very important because without the rations they would not of been eating for a long time.They could fall back on the rations because Sarah made the wheat edible.

    2/6/2012 7:42:37 PM
  • William P

    (comment on William D) I completely agree with your comment because You could not just drink the water you would need the chemistry kit and it is important technology.With the technology book when father made the seed drill the book was a great use of technology.That is what I think about your comment William D.

    2/6/2012 8:14:16 PM
  • Isabel D.

    Technology is useful on Shine because it builds shelter and light. They can use old techniqes for farming.

    2/7/2012 7:05:43 AM
  • Caitlin F.

    Question 1: I think father quoted I wandered lonely as a cloud as a Cloud because it was a what he was thinking and he thought of it like an important memory. Father probably said it also to try to make Pattie remember Earth because in the book it said Pattie forgot a lot about Earth and Father could have helped her.

    2/7/2012 3:48:41 PM
  • Lucas B


    Father quotes "I Wandered Lonely as a Cloud" because they are wandering around a new planet by themselves like a cloud.I understand how that feels because I moved from North Carolina to Granville and I didn't know anybody,but I think they will be happy like I am in Granville.

    2/7/2012 5:22:32 PM
  • Lucas B

    In question number 1, Father says "I wondered lonely as a cloud" because he thinks the new planet is bare, lonely and friendless. Because there is little life on the new planet and he remembers more than Pattie about life on Earth. Like what a cloud is and what a daffodil is. Because Pattie asked on page 32 what they both

    Adam- I agree with what you said except the part when you said father thinks Shine is bare.He thinks it's bare at first but then he changes his mind because moth people and the jellyfish show up.

    2/7/2012 6:01:47 PM
  • Ainsley O.

    After Sarah said "I'm the king of the castle get down you dirty rascle..." father said"Don't you have anything else to say",and he started saying"I wandered lonely as a cloud,/That floats on high over vales......
    He said that because they barely remember clouds and other memories on Earth.The story is all about remembering and working together.

    2/7/2012 8:22:15 PM
  • Ainsley O.

    I agree with Isabel D!Father did quote the poem"I wandered lonely as a cloud"because he missed Earth!

    2/7/2012 8:28:29 PM
  • Tyler.N

    I disagree with adam because Father probly quoted I Wandered Lonley as a Cloud because it reminded him of clouds and daffidils.Since Shine doesn't have any of those things,it reminded him of Earth.

    2/8/2012 7:24:45 PM
  • Sarah L.

    Question #1
    Father quoted "I wandered lonely as a cloud" because he thought Sarah wasn't saying something nice. He started to say the poem because he thought it was something better to say. He said "Can't you think of anything better than that" at the bottom of page 31. His feelings are sadness because he left the earth behind. Also, he's probably lonely since he had a wife that died on earth many years ago.

    2/8/2012 7:42:26 PM
  • Jon Dickerman

    IT is important for there to be technology on Shine because if they didn't have technology they wouldn't be able to survive. There wouldn't be a way to plant food, to build houses or to create light. Without these things there would be no life on Shine (I read my book at school and left it there, so I don't know what page this is from).

    2/8/2012 7:46:58 PM
  • Sarah L.

    I like your opinion Kaitlyn T. but technology can just be simple tools that make our life easier. That's what the dictionary says. Father thought technology was important. He made a seed drill. That was technology. I disagree with the answer you made about technology, but agree with the answer you made about food.

    2/8/2012 8:42:47 PM
  • Flere

    Sarah, I appreciate your point about technology. It is true that technology is defined as something that makes life easier.

    2/9/2012 10:31:55 AM
  • Nicole

    Father quoted "I Wanderd Lonely as a Cloud" maybe because he missed Earth and he was lonely. He also could be saying that because he wanted to remember the clouds because there are no clouds on planet Shine. The poem probably ment he might have been feeling sad and alone. He was also just floating around not knowing what to do.

    2/9/2012 5:21:10 PM
  • Nicole

    I like your idea Sarah L, but I thought he was saying the poem to remember Earth and tell how he felt.

    2/9/2012 5:34:02 PM
  • Megan M.

    Some technology could actually help the group survive on Shine. For example, they can use fertilizer, seeds, tools, etc. to grow food. They can also use technology to make a fire to keep them warm, cook food, and boil water.
    Instead of buying tools they could make their own. They could use them to plant food, make a fire, build shelter, etc.

    2/9/2012 7:13:39 PM
  • Megan M.

    Kaitlyn T- I agree with your response. However, they might need technology to live longer such as medicine and hospitals.

    2/9/2012 8:10:02 PM
  • jon.d

    Daneil.F I disigre with you because you said that the people would get bored so they would use the Earth computers to find more about Shine ,but rember when they said in the book that all of the Earth technology ran out? Also you said that the people would get bored ,but what I think is that the children play there games and the adults read there books.

    2/9/2012 8:18:38 PM
  • esme

    Technology is important on shine because even the smallest invention will help them live. Also, one of the things that would fall back is growing crops as fast as on Earth.

    2/10/2012 3:50:08 PM
  • Esmé C-P

    I agree with Jon. They wouldn't be able to survive without houses or light.

    2/10/2012 3:55:06 PM
  • Kathleen S.

    #1: Father quoted I wandered as lonely as a cloud because it was about Earth and they would never see Earth again. He may also have quoted the poem because he wanted everybody to try and remember Earth and remember all the beautiful sights there were on Earth. When Father forgot the words to the poem it had a huge impact on people especially Father because it seemed liked he was forgetting Earth.

    2/12/2012 5:57:00 PM
  • Michael Donelan

    Father quoted "I Wander Lonely as a Cloud" because he was sad they had left Earth and that he was forgetting the planet he had grown up on.

    2/12/2012 6:07:42 PM
  • Kathleen S.

    Sophie E. How do you know there will never be daffodils or oaks? There could be. Daffodils and oaks could start the same ways they started on Earth. Some trees will change a little bit and begin a new kind of tree, then change some more.

    2/12/2012 6:14:41 PM
 

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