Dec032008

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Homework for 12/2 (B) and 12/3 (D): pages 162 - top of 175
 
Q: Focus on March 7, 1944. Do you agree with Anne's assessment of herself? What does she say has changed about her over the years? Can you find evidence of these changes in her diary?
 
Q: pg. 172:  Why does Anne feel that she cannot be close with Margot?
 
Vocabulary:
1. despondency pg. 170
2. superficial pg. 170


Comments

 
  • Thomas Wissman

    Anne says that she used to be a terrible flirt, coquettish and amusing. She was also industrious, honest and frank. She says that her teachers all liked her. Peter told her that whenever he saw her she "was always surrounded by two or more boys and a whole troupe of girls." She was "always laughing and always the center of everything!" Anne admits that she was spoiled and had everything anyone could want. She has had a chance now to think about her old life and her old ways. She is definitely not spoiled now. She can barely get the adults around her to take her seriously. They tell her, "You keep out of this sort of conversation." The only person who listens to her is Peter, and she can write in her diary. She is not the center of attention anymore, and thinks about others more. She is concerned about her old friends' safety and the health of other people like Elli. The biggest thing is that Anne realizes that her life has changed and that she has changed too. She is not always happy now and thinks about serious things a lot more. She cries about her situation and how lonely she is. If it weren't for Peter she wouldn't have anyone but her diary to talk to. Anne wishes she could live her old life for just a little while, but realizes that her old carefree days will never return, and even if they did she would be different.

    12/3/2008 9:39:25 PM
  • Alicia :D

    Q1.I think Anne is right about herself changing. I remeber in teh beginning of a book, she was like an average girl, having friends, have teacher's approval, and go to places to have fun. But now, it's different. She was treated "spoiled" as she calls it by her parents, and she had money to spend away on herself. But, now in the Secret Annexe, she has to stay confined in a building, poor, and her parents have nothing to spare on her. So, she has to grow up with these changes. Everybody changes a bit every day, even if they notice it or not.
    Q2.I think Anne feel's she can't be close to Margot because some siblings are like that way. They aren't close, and they're different. How Margot behaves when she listens also is disturbing.

    12/4/2008 5:15:08 PM
  • Julia Nardone

    Despondency: state of being despondent; depression of spirits from loss of courage or hope; dejection.

    Superficial:Of, affecting, or being on or near the surface: a superficial wound.
    Concerned with or comprehending only what is apparent or obvious; shallow.
    Apparent rather than actual or substantial: a superficial resemblance.
    Trivial; insignificant: made only a few superficial changes in the manuscript.

    12/4/2008 5:33:21 PM
  • Julia Nardone

    I agree with Thomas. In her old life, Anne was happy and did not have a care in the world. Now, Anne is kind of reflecting on her old life, and has to deal with the hardships of life in the Annexe. She wishes that she could live her old life again, but she knows that it will be a long time until she can.

    12/4/2008 5:38:29 PM
  • Lydia Nou

    Anne has changed in many ways over the years she is much more mature and serious and worries much about other people she says that she used to be a big flirt, most boys liked her and she had many friends, she was nearly all her teachers' favorite student she was very amusing and outgoing she was also spoiled and was often the center of attention, most things she cared and thought about revolved around her and her awesome life. Now she is very serious keeps most things to herself because if she states her feelings everyone will think they are silly feelings and won't care. She feels like she can only talk to Peter and write to her diary. She cares more about other people now and isn't the spotlight anymore. she is very emotional about things that make her angry or upset and hardly ever speeks ecspecially about her feelings. She has gone from happy and outgoing to serious and quiet.

    12/4/2008 6:12:17 PM
  • Lydia Nou

    VOCAB: superficiality

    Definition: Lack of depth of knowledge or thought or feelings.

    12/4/2008 6:24:55 PM
  • Lydia Nou

    VOCAB: despondency

    Definition: Feeling downcast, disheartenedness,hopeless,despair, or misery.

    12/4/2008 6:26:45 PM
  • Lydia Nou

    Anne thinks Margot is sweet and Margot wants Anne to trust her but Anne feels she cannot because Margot is around her all the time and Margot never really understands if Anne is joking with her or if she really means what she is saying Margot never understans exactly what Anne is saying either.

    12/4/2008 6:32:47 PM
  • Nicole Duran

    Anne feels that she can't be close with Margot because Anne says that if she told Margot everything, Margot well then look searchingly at Anne.Also because Anne is with Margot the entire day that she says "if I trusted someone completely, then I shouldn't want them hanging around me all the time."

    12/4/2008 7:12:42 PM
  • Kevin O'Brien

    Anne feels she cannot become closer to Margot because she takes her to seriosly and can't say something deep near her without her taking it the wrong way. Also she thinks that since they are together all day long with the others she thinks she can't tell her secrets without them coming out later.

    12/4/2008 9:03:12 PM
  • Elizabeth Oldhouser

    despondecy: depression of spirits from loss of courage or hope; dejection.
    superficial: being at on or near the surface, external or outward, apparent rather than real.

    12/4/2008 9:04:35 PM
  • Kevin O'Brien

    Why does Anne's mom keep getting in the way of her having a relationship with Peter??

    12/4/2008 9:04:39 PM
  • Elizabeth Oldhouser

    I agree with Thomas! I also think that since Anne was so spoiled in her regular life and that this was a big change for her, she may hae done some complaining and now she doesn't have anyone to go to but Peter and her diary. Everyone else like the adults don't put up with her because of what she used to do. Anne now realizes what she has done because Peter helped her. Anne really has changed I think.

    12/4/2008 9:08:48 PM
  • Kevin O'Brien

    I think Thomas makes a good point, they say Anne is spoiled but now so much has happened she is way from spoiled since her own parents don't listen to her much. Also, she said she used to be a terrible flirt and now she is flirting with Peter more and more often but doesn't realize it that often. I think Anne is growing up.

    12/4/2008 9:08:52 PM
  • Elizabeth Oldhouser

    this may sound odd, but what does coquettish mean? Anne uses this word multiple times to describe herself and how she has changed

    12/4/2008 9:10:13 PM
  • daine van de wall

    i think that morgot is alot more mature than anne, while anne acts like a little girl everyone says. Morgot is like darkness while anne is like sunshine. they cannot mix. Anne lets all of her feeling out, and morgot keeps them all inside like an adult.

    1.superficial-shallow; not profound or thorough
    2. despondency-state of being despondent; depression of spirits from loss of courage or hope; dejection.

    12/5/2008 2:56:44 PM
  • daine van de wall

    I was also going to ask the same question as kevin. Why does anne mom keep on getting in the way of peter and hers relationship??

    12/5/2008 2:58:14 PM
  • Anthony Bowman

    The word despondency means deppresion of spirits and loss of courage and hope. This could be used in a sentence for example, as Anne was sunken in despondency after her sister and mom were mean to her.

    12/5/2008 3:02:58 PM
  • Daine Vandewalll

    why does anne want a girlfriends?

    12/5/2008 3:07:38 PM
  • Jay Bucci

    I think Anne and Margot can't be friends because she can't get in those deep discussions and she takes Anne to seriosly. Also, if Anne confided in Margot completely Anne wouldn't want Margot follwing her around everywhere she goes.(they can't leave the house so Anne can't get away from Margot.)

    12/5/2008 3:09:09 PM
  • Alex Girgis :P

    Now that I think back in the book, I wonder how the Franks managed to find such a hiding place. It's like Bruce Wayne becoming Batman and THEN finding the batcove in his own house!
    It's all very convinient. So how did they find the secret annexe?

    12/5/2008 3:13:52 PM
  • Anthony Bowman

    What does the word conceited mean? Also, why did she just start thinking about her life in 1942?

    12/5/2008 3:14:14 PM
  • Jay Bucci

    Vocab

    Despondent-feeling or showing extreme discouragement, dejection, or depression.(despondency-the state being despondent.)

    Superficial-lying on, not penetrating below, or effecting only the surface.

    12/5/2008 3:16:48 PM
  • Lauren Roche

    Anne feels that she cannot be close with Margot because Anne thinks Margot lacks concern for discussing any deep thoughts/feelings. Also, Anne thinks that Margot takes her too seriously, and after any deep discussions Margot might think about her "queer little sister" and give her strange looks.

    12/5/2008 4:25:27 PM
  • Jake Ballard

    I think that Anne feels that she can't be close to Margot because, in her diary, she says, "She's such a darling, she's good and pretty, but she lacks the nonchalance for conducting deep discussions..." Anne thinks that Margot takes everything too seriously and doesn't understand if she is joking or telling the truth about something.

    12/5/2008 4:28:53 PM
  • Garrett Thrush

    coquettish-a woman who flirts lightheartedly with men to win their admiration and affection; flirt.

    12/5/2008 10:12:41 PM
  • Garrett Thrush

    Why do you think that Mrs. Van Daan kind of flirts with other men. Is it that she dosen't like her husband or is she just trying to be nice(for once).

    12/5/2008 10:15:06 PM
  • Annika Stricker

    Elizabeth,
    This sounds really weird, but coquettish means to get a guys attention or flirt.

    12/5/2008 11:21:11 PM
  • Annika Stricker

    Superficially: being on the surface.
    despondency: loss of hope or courage.

    12/5/2008 11:26:16 PM
  • Annika Stricker

    Why don't Anne and Margot talk instead of write letters to each other?

    12/5/2008 11:27:57 PM
  • Lauren Vagnoni : D

    Why does Anne feel that she cannot be close with Margot?

    Answer: i think Anne cannot be close with margot because Margot has all her Mom's attention and Anne doesn't like Mummy. I just think it would be kind of weird for anne because Margot is always with her mom.

    12/6/2008 11:14:32 AM
  • Lauren Vagnoni : D

    Vocab: despondency-a state of low spirits caused by loss of hope or courage.

    12/6/2008 11:17:38 AM
  • Lauren Vagnoni : D

    Do you think Peter likes Anne as much as Anne likes Peter? It seems like ita lot until the part on pg. 157. I still think Peter likes anne a lot.

    12/6/2008 11:32:36 AM
  • Brandon Barajas :P

    I agree with Thomas. I think his response summarizes one life lesson. That unpredictable experiences can change who you are for the rest of your life. For example, in 1942 Anne is living the good life, always the center of attention, and always popular, but in the middle of 1942 war comes and forces her into hiding. During her time in hiding she has changed from a playful young girl to a young woman who takes things seriously. This expirience will change her personality and character for the rest of her life.

    12/6/2008 5:53:50 PM
  • Brandon Barajas :P

    Anne says even though Margot is sweet, good, and pretty she "lacks the nonchalance for conducting deep discussions". To me this means that Margot is not the type of person to carry out a personal discussion. She also says she takes her much too seriously and looks at her after every time she speaks to try and determine if she is truely speaking or telling a joke. The main reason Anne cannot be close to Margot is because she does not completely trust her.

    12/6/2008 6:06:37 PM
  • Patrick Mikulis

    Q: pg. 172: Why does Anne feel that she cannot be close with Margot?
    A: Anne believes, even though Margot is a good person, that Margot takes Anne too seriously.

    12/7/2008 8:39:13 AM
  • Patrick Mikulis

    My question:
    Do you think that Anne HAS changed from what she was when she first came to the Annex?

    12/7/2008 8:40:13 AM
  • Rachel Morin

    Anne is caring more about others needs more than she does hers, now that she feels lucky about not being caught, yet. In erlier entries, she talked about her friend, Lies and how Anne deserted her. In even erlier entries, Anne didn't say much about her friends while she lived in the Annex.
    Now Anne is really thinking deep about things, not only about herself, but others, she is thinking over what she did in the past and how wrong she was at times.
    Anne probably read back on other entries she wrote eirlier instead of writing something that was happening at that moment at the time. She probably read old entries and thought about them more and seeing how she could fix what she said in the entries, sort of like editing stories, exept she's editing how she thought about the situation.

    12/7/2008 6:33:12 PM
  • Rachel Morin

    I think Anne has changed alot as a writer! She probably thinks a lot about how to make her writing sound interesting because I sure am interested! For example, Anne wrote on
    March 3, 1944,
    " When I looked into the candle this evening I felt calm and happy. Oma seems to be in the candle and it is Oma too who shelters and protects me and who always makes me feel happy again.
    But... there is someone else who governs all my moods and that is... Peter."
    She compared something from what she felt that day to what she felt about something else. When she looked into that candle, she probably thought about Peter as well.

    12/7/2008 6:45:05 PM
  • Shawn :P

    I think that Anne cant be close to Margot because she is a darling and pretty and Mom gets all of the attention from her. Also, Anne doesnt like her om so that complicates things a bunch. Lastly, Margot is mostly ALWAYS with Mummy. Which is difficult for Anne.

    12/8/2008 3:59:07 PM
  • Zach rodriguez

    Q: pg. 172: Why does Anne feel that she cannot be close with Margot?

    Anne feels she can not be close with Margot because Margot takes her to seriously and she doesn't know how to conduct deep discussions.

    12/8/2008 8:46:36 PM
  • Zach rodriguez

    On page 164 Anne is talking abouthow Oma is in the candle and Oma is the one who shelters and protects her, who is Oma?

    12/8/2008 8:48:36 PM
  • Elizabeth Oldhouser

    Anne feels she cannot be close to Margot because Margot is so 'perfect, and pretty' and Anne feels that she doesn't trust Margot although she would like Anne if she trusted her.

    12/8/2008 9:32:37 PM
  • Elizabeth Oldhouser

    Patrick, I do think Anne has changed since she came to the Annexe. She is definitley more 'grown up' and starts liking boys in a 'love' sort of way for example, Peter. She is also using different...language in her entries now (some not so appropiate). When she came to the annexe she thought it was 'a world of wonder' but now she thinks it is just a dirty stinky, no air from outside hiding place!

    12/8/2008 9:34:54 PM
  • Elizabeth Oldhouser :-0 X:-D

    Lauren Vagnoni, i do think peter likes anne a lot because he tries to impress her a lot and says he likes her random talking and likes to be around her. anne DEFINITLEY is in love with peter although she denies it. i think it is sad however that no one else knows about their 'connection' besides them. :'-(

    12/8/2008 9:38:08 PM
 

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