Dec082008

POSTED AT 07:06 PM

Homework for 12/8 (B) and 12/9 (D)
Read pages 186 - top of 196 ( you may skip 190-191 entry)
 
Q: What do you think of Anne's attention to the war details during this section? What information do you get about how others are surviving the war outside of the Annex?
 
Vocabulary:
1. Stalin (pg. 193) - what is his position in the war? How might this impact Anne and others in Holland?


Comments

 
  • Alex Girgis

    I think that Anne's attention to the war is good because it's about time that she paid attention to things other than herself and her own personal problems.Thousands of people are DEAD and rising while she is sitting back in her nice little annexe! Not to be mean, but it's true!

    12/9/2008 3:57:57 PM
  • Zach Rodriguez

    Anne's attemtion towards war details is not strong at all in her entry she was saying that poloticsdo not interest her and she rather let it go. People outside of the Annexe are surviving the war by lining up for vegetables and stealing cars and little children of 8 and 11 years old are sneaking into peoples houses and stealing whatever they can get their hands on.

    12/9/2008 5:22:17 PM
  • Zach Rodriguez

    On page 186 Annes mom said she was afraid to of being snubbed, what does snubbed mean?

    12/9/2008 5:26:58 PM
  • Garrett Thrush

    Do you think that Peter and Anne will still feel the same about each other later in the book. As more happens in the war they could get more stressed or get different oppinions on things such as the war.

    12/9/2008 5:38:20 PM
  • shawn :P

    Stalin is a Russian war leader. He leads the Soviets (Russians) with the U.S. againts Germany and the other Axis countries. this might impact Anne because the Soviets could take over and search the town. The could find Anne and her buddies and take her away as a prisinor of war.

    12/9/2008 6:31:39 PM
  • Julia Nardone

    I agree with Alex G. Anne was very fortunate to have a place to hide, while other inoccent Jews were having the harder end of everything. I think that it is good that Anne is paying attention to the war now, because now she wil understand how lucky she is.

    12/9/2008 7:42:06 PM
  • Julia Nardone

    From these diary entries, I have learned information about Jews living outside the Annexe. I have learned that life is TERRIBLE for them. They have restrictions that are really UNFAIR! Not a lot of Jews actually have a place to hide, so Anne should consider herself very lucky.

    12/9/2008 7:45:15 PM
  • Ashley Leitner

    Zach Rodriguez,

    Snub-Rebuff, ignore, or spurn disdainfully.

    12/9/2008 9:01:43 PM
  • Ashley Leitner

    Have Anne and her mother gotten closer since the prayer incident?

    12/9/2008 9:05:49 PM
  • Thomas Wissman

    Anne admits that she is not very interested in politics. She has to purposely make herself talk about it. She says she will "devote" her "whole letter to politics today." She doesn't really talk about her own ideas, but talks about the arguments and conversations that the others have about the war. She is really much more interested in the personal relationships in the Annexe, especially her relationship with Peter.

    12/9/2008 9:37:08 PM
  • Lauren Vagnoni X:~D

    Do you think that Peter and Anne will still feel the same about each other later in the book. As more happens in the war they could get more stressed or get different oppinions on things such as the war.

    Answering Garrett's question, i do think that peter and Anne will have the same feelings for each other because the details of the war will bring them eve closer. I do agree with you, i think they might disagree about some things and have different opinions. I think them having each other as such close friends will let them express their feeling that they can't tell anyone else

    12/10/2008 2:54:28 PM
  • Lauren Vagnoni X:~D

    What is melancholy(pg.171)?Anne says that when she is talking about her counsel

    12/10/2008 2:59:21 PM
  • lauren roche

    I think Anne has payed more attention to the war in this section than anywhere else in her diary. She tells us a lot of bad things like bombing, steeling, burglars, crashing airplanes, etc. It seems like the war is a bad influence to children outside the Annex. Also, Anne tells us that some of the other Jews or people in hiding are low on food supply and are having a hard time surviving.

    12/10/2008 3:23:41 PM
  • Alex Girgis

    What has been Happening to the Vann Dann and Frank parents?They havent been mentioned much in the more recent entries. these new entries mostly talk about Anne.

    12/10/2008 3:33:20 PM
  • lauren roche

    Stalin is a Russian leader. His rule was a victorious but devastating role for the Soviets in World War 2. This might help Anne and the others in Holland, and the Russians and Stalin might become allies to Jews.

    12/10/2008 3:33:32 PM
  • shawn:D

    I think that Anne attention to the war is good. She can know if people are attacking her city. Also, She can know how the citys defenses are doing while she relaxes in her hidden little annexe in Holland.

    12/10/2008 4:03:55 PM
  • Matthew Shollenberger

    On page 186, Anne says that the result "was a small fire and two people killed". Were those two people two of the people who jumped out of the plane, or two people at the ground? I am not sure what Anne meant.

    12/10/2008 4:45:01 PM
  • Matthew Shollenberger

    While I think that Anne is very lucky to have a place to hide, she would be even luckier if she didn't have to. Also, she isn't the only family. The vegetable man across the street is hiding Jews, as you'll learn later on in the story. And Alex, she isn't exactly sitting back in her nice little Annexe. For one, there are a lot of things that make her life miserable, like outgrowing her clothes, her "Anexemates", and the gross, little amount of food. So I'm impressed that she's even paying that much attensoin to the outside world.

    12/10/2008 4:53:55 PM
  • Matthew Shollenberger

    Stalin is a Russian leader. If he invades Holland, there could be a few good and bad outcomes. When he invades the city, Anne could die from explosions, fire, or bullets. If the Russians take over the city, the Germans might flood it. But if Russia takes over other cities important to Germany, the Gerrmans might leave the city peacefully, and Anne will survive.

    12/10/2008 4:58:50 PM
  • Matthew Shollenberger

    you have a good point, Alex. The grownups are mentioned about four times from pages 186-196, and most of them are brief.

    12/10/2008 5:03:34 PM
  • Daine Van de wall

    I agree with zach anne says that she does not care much about politics and that she rather not talk about it. she says she has no intrest and thus does not pay much attention to it. And just like zach said people are surving the war by stealing food or forging ration books. they are also stealing cars, jewlery, and what ever else they can get there hands on. people dont leave their cars anymore or they will be stolen she says. HOwever, she does talk about how terrible things are under german rule. they cannot do anything espacilly the jewish people.

    Stalin is a russian leader and commands the russian army. he could lead his army into america and take over and possible destroy the country. this would leave pretty much no hope for any jews who are left.


    Ok, so my question is why does anne have no intrest in politics? why do most of the adult have an intrest?

    12/10/2008 8:32:49 PM
  • Daine Van de wall

    Oh, and zach good question i dont know what it means either i hope to find out? (snubbed wow weird word)

    12/10/2008 8:33:55 PM
  • Daniel Shin

    Lauren Vagnoni X:~D

    Q: What is melancholy(pg.171)?Anne says that when she is talking about her counsel

    A: Melancholy is a sad feeling or saying that she is sad.

    12/11/2008 6:05:29 AM
  • Daniel Shin

    Q: Did Anne's personality change because of the war outside the Annex?

    12/11/2008 6:08:22 AM
  • Tyler Montgomery

    I think the info. about the war is from people living through the concentration camps and getting rescued. That is how they know what the concentration camps are like.

    12/11/2008 11:17:26 AM
  • Tyler Montgomery

    Daniel,
    I think that adults talk about politics more because politics are boring, and adults have more patience for that sort of thing. Kids just can't sit still for that long.

    Why did we not respond immediatly to the threats in Germany.

    12/11/2008 11:19:59 AM
  • Tyler Montgomery

    Sorry Daine. I called you Daniel.

    12/11/2008 11:20:51 AM
  • Lauren Bae

    Zach Rodriguez,
    Snubbed means to treat with disdain or contempt by ignoring.

    12/11/2008 4:25:03 PM
  • Lauren Bae

    I think Anne's war details showed that she really knew what was going on outside of the Secret Annexe. I think that she understands that a lot of people are dead and people are still dying while she is pretty secure in the Annexe

    12/11/2008 4:33:51 PM
  • Jake Ballard

    Stalin was the dictator of Russia during the war. He killed many people during WWII. This might impact Anne in others in Holland because Stalin and his army could attack or bomb it which would put everyone in Holland and the annex in danger.

    12/11/2008 5:28:24 PM
  • Jay Bucci

    Does Margot and Anne's mom have the same relationship as Anne and Pim?

    12/11/2008 5:42:12 PM
  • Jay Bucci

    Matt I am not so sure who died in the plane crash on page 186 but I thought it was some people on the ground.

    12/11/2008 5:45:29 PM
  • Jay Bucci

    Daniel, I do think her personality has changed because of the war, but I also think her personality has changed because she is getting older.

    12/11/2008 5:47:46 PM
  • Brandon Barajas

    Stalin's position in the war was Premier of the Soviet Union. He oversaw the growth of the industries and Soviet involvment in the war. This might impact Anne and the others in Holland because on one hand it can give them a tiny bit of hope that the the war will come to an end, but on the other hand they do not know what will happen to them if they are discovered by Stalin. There is a fear of the unknown if the war was to come to an end.

    12/11/2008 7:35:18 PM
  • Brandon Barajas

    Daine and Zach,
    I think that being snubbed means to be robbed of a valuble item. In the text Anne's mom does not want her purse to be snubbed.

    12/11/2008 7:38:59 PM
  • Sam Cook

    Will Anne ever tell Peter she loves him?

    12/11/2008 8:15:54 PM
  • Sam Cook

    Daniel, I think that Annes personality is changing from the war because I think she is stressed because she doesn't want to get caught

    12/11/2008 8:18:40 PM
  • Sam Cook

    Stalin is a Great russian leader

    12/11/2008 8:19:51 PM
  • Kevin O'Brien

    Alex makes a good point, Anne has only been focusing on the problems and issues in the Annex but now she is starting to worry about the war only because it's affecting her and her family and mabey will in the future. She is really only focusing on the problems that affect herself which now include the war because of food and people looking for her.

    12/12/2008 8:09:25 AM
  • Kevin O'Brien

    Does Anne react to Peter in the same way he reacts to her? Are they growing closer in a relationship without knowing

    12/12/2008 8:11:34 AM
  • Kevin O'Brien

    Daniel,
    I think the war is affecting Anne because seh is going through many changes and can see them through the way she is writing about others and herself.

    12/12/2008 8:13:22 AM
  • Annika Stricker

    He was born in 1879 and died in 1953. He was General Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union's Central Committee from 1922 until he died.

    12/12/2008 3:34:28 PM
  • Annika Stricker

    The guy I was talking about in my other blog was Stalin.

    12/12/2008 3:36:01 PM
  • Annika Stricker

    Lauren,
    Melancholy is a deep, long lasting sadness.

    12/12/2008 3:37:35 PM
  • Garrett Thrush

    Will Anne ever tell Peter she loves him?
    A: I think that Anne will tell him. I think that Anne is kind of geting the sense that Peter likes her too. Also she might do it because she is getting bored or she might tell him as they are getting caught just be cause she would be going to die.

    12/12/2008 3:43:53 PM
  • Lydia Nou

    does peter know that anne loves him? and i also agree with Lauren Vagnoni about Anne and Peter growing apart during the stressful war.

    12/12/2008 3:54:29 PM
  • Jake Ballard

    I think that Anne's attention to war details was OK. Anne admits that she does not write much about politics and doesn't really pay much attention to it (she talks a lot about Peter instead). Anne does mention that Russia is by the Polish border and that 350 British planes dropped half a million kilos of bombs on Ijmuiden. She talks about things such as doctors who are not visiting the sick because people are steeling cars, everyone who is lining up for vegetables, and all of the thefts and burglaries outside of the annex.

    12/12/2008 3:55:05 PM
  • Lydia Nou

    vocab: epidemics (pg.192)

    12/12/2008 3:56:46 PM
  • Lydia Nou

    why does Anne not want to get along with Margot even though margot is trying to get along or has Anne just not forgiven her from the past and does not trust her well like we said?

    12/12/2008 3:59:31 PM
  • Lydia Nou

    vocab: audibly (pg. 201)

    12/12/2008 4:02:59 PM
  • Mark Moody

    On Tuesday, 28 March, 1944, Anne addresses her diary, "Dearest Kitty." Why does Anne write, "Dearest Kitty," in this passage but writes, "Dear Kitty," in each of her other journal entries?

    12/12/2008 4:09:26 PM
  • Lydia Nou

    I agree with Julia Nardone also Anne is probably on of the most fortunate Jews because she has a place to hide and be temporarily safe while other Jews that are not in hiding are being dragged away all the time with no exceptions of kids, elderly, sick, ar expecting mothers they are all taken away just because they are Jews.

    12/12/2008 4:27:51 PM
  • Lydia Nou

    I know this is a wierd question and it's kind of further back but is Elli sort of like the person who helps The Frank family with essential things to keep them living? does she do this along with Miep??

    12/12/2008 4:31:16 PM
  • Mark Moody

    Ashley Leitner

    Q: Have Anne and her mother closer since the prayer incident?

    A: No, Anne and her mother haven't gotten closer sinct the prayer incident. Anne's mother has continued to reach out to Anne in different ways, but Anne shuts her out. Just as Anne would not let her mother say prayers with her, now she refuses to discuss Peter with her mother. Anne recognizes that her cold behavior causes her mother to be sad, but Anne ststes that she is not sad. The only way Anne and her mother will get closer is if they can talk about what is causing the problem between them and then try to correct the problem.

    12/12/2008 4:34:19 PM
  • Ryan Romano >|< - P

    I think that Anne is shocked that during this time of crisis; people are commiting crimes, law enforcement does nothing, and everything falls apart, while she stays nice and cozy inside the Annexe. Actually, to tell the truth, I would agree with her. I mean, it's a time of crisis, Germany is seizing control, and what do people do? They loot shops daily and sell shoe soles illegally for 7.50 florins. Shouldn't they unite and rebel against the Germans, since they outnumber them? Then they would overpower them, have their freedom back, and they wouldn't have all these problems. (Plus, the Franks would be free!)


    12/12/2008 8:37:37 PM
  • Ryan Romano >|< - P

    In the Tuesday, 28 March, 1944 entry (yes, I read it, mwahahaha), Anne talks about how the adults-or "old-uns", as she calls them-try to encourage her not to go upstairs with peter. Why do they care if Peter and Anne love each other?

    12/12/2008 9:01:26 PM
  • Nick Morton

    I think Anne is amazed during a very disturbing war people are doing crimes and breaking the law like nothing is happening and the war is no big deal. (WOW)

    12/15/2008 3:33:32 PM
  • Nick Morton

    I agree with you Jake. She talks a lot about Peter (A LOT) Politics really just dont matter to her.

    12/15/2008 3:37:53 PM
  • Zachary Wolf

    I think that Anne thinks that the war is scary, loud, and everlasting. Lie she and the other girls in the annexe hate the firing of guns and bombs going off. They all think that is very loud. One thing that Anne wrote in her diary was "We-I'm speaking of the ladies- nearly jumped out of our skins, I loathe the blasted shooting." That remark was written after a plane crashed near the annexe after being shot down by the Germans. Luckily, the men in the plane were able to jump out and land safely on the ground with their parachutes before the plane crashed into a school and started a fire. the incident only caused two deaths. The point is, Anne and her family hate the war and the shooting and the bombing and the fires.

    12/15/2008 4:42:02 PM
 

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